PakMediNet Discussion Forum : Public Health : Where has summer gone?
Where has summer gone?Is this a Public Health question? I have no idea but I hope every one had a nice vacation during July and August. For me its back to old routine at a much slower pace.
Posted by: chameed Posts: 173 :: 01-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Where has summer gone?summer has gone and so is the monsoom and has left behind the broken roads and post rain pollution and infections to deal with.
Posted by: yasmeen Posts: 2 :: 01-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Where has summer gone?
Dear Doctor thanks for letting us know about the gone summer and how you are feeling. Its really very useful to know for all of us.
ijaz
Posted by: ijazali Posts: 151 :: 02-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Where has summer gone?
now you have touched a sensitive issue here..... Doctors and vacations in Pakistan.... Ha ha Ha ....my cousin is a judge... he gets 6 weeks paid vacations a year... my friend a teacher in govt college enjoys summers like any thing cuz all the students are on summer vacations..... majority of governement servants avail their annual casual or previlege leaves.... but when it comes to doctors in this country... i think no body's bothered.... they are taken as non stop workholics who are not supposed to enjoy life or take breaks... work for 36-48 hrs in a stretch and in the end when they sit down for an hour nap or a cup of tea..... people start exclaiming DUKHI INSANIAT TARAP RAHEE THEE AUR DOCTOR AARAM KAR RAHA THAA.....well things are changing for sure and i am hopeful that they will change for doctors as well
Posted by: drrathore Posts: 428 :: 03-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Where has summer gone?Why do you think that is? Why is medical profession loosing respect? Or is it the fact that most doctors do not speak-up and have become very passive?
Posted by: chameed Posts: 173 :: 11-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Where has summer gone?
well Dr Hameed
you do have a point here... it is absolutely true that we doctors in Pakistan as a community have become very passive and feel shy to voice our feelings and ask what is our right... but sir, you might agree that things in Pakistan are not as good as in states... here if a trainee and for that matter even a consultant asks for leave( which is his right in all respects).. he is looked upon by the administration, own colleagues and seniors as if he is commiting a crime to ask for a break.... after all doctors are humans and not robots who can go on without rest, leaves and enjoyement.... it is important that atlest the colleagues who are memebers of the Pakmedinet family try to inculcate this in their juniors.......
Posted by: drrathore Posts: 428 :: 11-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Where has summer gone?
I remember an interesting story here
" A queen was visiting a slum (poor locality) . She found a labourer's child crying. she asks "why is he crying so badly" , the labourers wife replies " he is hungry for the last one day" . The queen asks the labourers wife surprisingly " than why donot you people give her a piece of cake and some biscuits".
We are OK as we are now and we'll manage.
ijaz
[Edited by ijazali on 12-09-2006 at 03:48 AM GMT]
[Edited by ijazali on 12-09-2006 at 03:49 AM GMT]
Posted by: ijazali Posts: 151 :: 12-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Where has summer gone?
drrathore:
I don't recall such problems, although its been a long time that I served in Pakistan but I did serve in PAF as a pilot/doctor before I left the country. In those days there were only five medical colleges in west part of Pakistan. Getting admitted to a medical college was a major event in your life and every one respected that. May be now you have too many medical schools and MBBS does not command all that respect.
Posted by: chameed Posts: 173 :: 16-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Where has summer gone?
Yasmeen:
Never heard of monsoon in Glasgow.
Posted by: chameed Posts: 173 :: 16-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Where has summer gone?
Dear Sir Hameed
The system and people in PAF are very doctor friendly and you get a good pay, respect and perks and previleges of wearing an Air force uniform... i was referring to the general conditions prevalent in the civil medical sector of Pakistan ... and you are right ....now there are private medical colleges in nearly every "Mohallah" and their annual fees runs in lakhs and except for some noble excepptions the standards are not up to the mark... And I 100% agree getting admission in medical college was in fact one of the biggest events in my life and i am sure thousands out there will agree to this
[Edited by drrathore on 20-09-2006 at 08:00 AM GMT]
Posted by: drrathore Posts: 428 :: 20-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Where has summer gone?I agree with the civilian situation. MBBS used to be class II and I remember we had to go on strike in 1963-64 to get class I. Then you have to compete with all these unlicenced and in many cases illiterates, who are dispensing all kinds of mixtures.
Posted by: chameed Posts: 173 :: 21-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Where has summer gone?
Sir Hameed
Salams
Can you kindly further elaborate this class I and 2 business for which you had to go on a strike... its always good to know a word about medical history apart from History of polio, penicillins......
Posted by: drrathore Posts: 428 :: 23-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Where has summer gone?
drrathore:
There used to be a system of civil service, where if you passed a CSP exam. you were immediately considered a class I gazetted officer whereas if an MBBS joined the civil service as a medical officer, he/she was considered a class II gazetted officer and that was the fight. The strike was successful because there were only three medical colleges in Punjab and we had full cooperation of the ladies from FJ. Then governor Amir Mohammed Khan proved himself to be a reasonable individual and after meeting with him in Lahore, we were able to convince him and the orders were issued very shortly there after.
Posted by: chameed Posts: 173 :: 27-09-2006 :: | Reply to this Message