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BUNDERS OF JPMA AND JCPSP
i want to bring to the notice of the users of this site "the bunders of the JPMA and JCPSP". I send articles to these bunders and everytime a new bunder reviews it and send it with a new objection. <******************************> I will never ever send an article to these filthy Journals.
ijaz
[Edited by docosama on 06-10-2005 at 07:06 AM GMT]
Posted by: ijazaliPosts: 151 :: 09-06-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Blunders by mafia at journals full of plagiarism
You are absolutely right ... the old folks who are believed to be the reviewers of these journals presenting the true face of plagiarism among thses so-called biomedical gurus who are responsible to retard the propgagation of true medical knowledge and intellectual growth of our medical community .... who can face these rigid figures ... this is our misfortune that we have to suffer from .... THERE IS NO WAY TO BE SAFE FROM BECOMING THE VICTIM OF THEIR CRUEL BLUNDERS! Honesty group war against plagiarism
[Edited by honesty on 15-08-2005 at 08:10 AM GMT]
Posted by: honestyPosts: 5 :: 13-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Blunders by mafia at journals full of plagiarism
yeah especially JCPSP in particular is bent on winning favours from the most dumb ppl. in this country who unfortunately are well connected. it is impossible to get an article published in JCPSP without connections or I am not sure they might be some other way... but i see this journal full of substandard articles . The guy who deals with the publications and authors is in particular an IDIOT , no chance of him improving but unfortunately we have millions of such brain damaged super egoistic bunders in our country and have to bear with them too.
We should pray that there are more indexed journals in Pakistan especially we need speciality oriented journals rather than general or nonspecific kind of journals. Infact if the various individual organisations like neurology association, General surgical associations etc etc should try to get at least one journal indexed for that specific subspeciality then these problems will be solved and we will not be depending too much on there bunders.
ijaz
Posted by: ijazaliPosts: 151 :: 14-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: BUNDERS OF JPMA AND JCPSP
Well, is there any solution for the above problem you have mentioned.
What about starting an online Pakistani medical journal, having a honest & educated editorial committee? PakMediNet will provide all the technical help in this regards.
Posted by: docosamaPosts: 333 :: 14-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Re: Blunders by mafia at journals full of plagiarismDid name calling ever solve any problem? Such problems exist everywhere but may be in Pakistan, they are more obvious. If your articles are so innovative and worthy of publication, why don't you try any of the thousands of international journals?
Posted by: chameedPosts: 173 :: 14-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
RE: Blunders by mafia at journals full of plagiarismWhen someone with obviously pesudo-gumption and poor knowledge exercises the powers to reject your long and tiring but successful academic and scientific efforts along with some sort of innovations within the limited availble framework of scientific facilities that we can have, the intensity of disappointment and reactionary anger could be guessed. Who can find the solution of this problem? An innovative and erudite research worker with sufficient expertise to handle the various aspects of a biomedical research including the various kinds of statistical analyses. PakMediNet is an excellent forum to detect plagiaristic approach and contents of several biomedical journals published in Pakistan, and hence to expose the 'pandits'/reviewers who have approved such articles for publication. If you have a sufficient knowledge of various kinds of research methodologies for a particular kind of research including appropriate statistical analyses, you can easily detect blunders and academic foolishness in a number of articles. You can write your review on the pages of PakMediNet ... so in this respect I solute the people at PakMediNet to provide a forum to comment on published articles. In addition, HEC (Higher Education Commssion) should do some legislation to detect and then to eliminate plagiarism in biomedical and other scientific areas. Honesty Group ... war against plagiarism
Posted by: honestyPosts: 5 :: 15-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Re: BUNDERS OF JPMA AND JCPSP
I agree in principle for launching an online journal. However, the editorial and peer-review process should be as transprent as possible. I will be glad to provide any help in launching an online journal.
[Edited by rqayyum on 15-08-2005 at 03:55 PM GMT]
Posted by: rqayyumPosts: 199 :: 15-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Re: Re: Blunders by mafia at journals full of plagiarism
Dear chameed thanks for protecting those Brain damaged group. I have obviously sent all those article but what to do of that one year of constant communication with these insensitive ppl, if I were to do that why can't they give a final answer or an answer sooner.
Secondly to all the guys thanks a lot for ur input , it is great that we can talk here in this forum and share ideas, a lot of this credit goes to Dr Osama too. I would like to state that having an Online journal is probably not that dificult but what we need is More Indexed Journals , 'cos this is how the world knows what we are doing and it gets registered whether its online or not online is not the big question.
regards
Ijaz
Posted by: ijazaliPosts: 151 :: 15-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Re: Re: Re: Blunders by mafia at journals full of plagiarism
Ijazali:
Rejection is part of life and one sees it on a daily basis in various shapes. You can either deal with it in a cool collected manner or you can have an emotional outburst and ruin your day. I still think that name calling is uncalled for and has never solved any problem.
I am not here to solute or protect any one. I feel that academic reasearch in Pakistan is in its infancy and people should be encouraged to take part in it. Your frustration with the process may be genuine but that's what you have. You can choose to deal with it as you wish.
This IS an online journal and it would be nice if people would comment based on their clinical experiences rather than quoting from books etc.
Happy Pakistan Day to you all,
[Edited by chameed on 16-08-2005 at 10:18 AM GMT]
Posted by: chameedPosts: 173 :: 16-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Blunders by mafia at journals full of plagiarism
thank you for ur encouragement. Though i was not going to give up anyways.
Running a journal is a full time job and should somebody want to do that, he/she needs to have a significant infrastructure. Starting a journal is no big deal Running it is.So untill and unless some organisation takes the responsibility it would not be a success thats why i am proposing that the respective socities of various specialities should take up this work and improve their own journals and get them internationlly recognised.
Lastly as I already said we need to get more indexed journals rather than "any journals" to attract the international attention. this is a pity that in a country of 165 million we have just 3 indexed journal and of these 3 one of which is quarterly.
ijazali
Posted by: ijazaliPosts: 151 :: 17-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Blunders by mafia at journals full of plagiarism
I agree with Dr. Ijaz Ali that running an online journal is a big task and needs a group of people to run it. This group of people can be a formal organization or an informal group of people who take responsibility for running such a journal. Thus, the first and most important task is to collect a group of like-minded people with enough talent to run a journal. In my opinion, it needs at least a core group of about 5 people and a larger group of 30-50 people to run an online journal successfully.
As far as indexing a journal is concerned, one needs a journal first to get it indexed. Its indexing will depend on the quality of published manuscripts. Those who are interested in knowing more about the indexing guidelines for Medline can visit this link and its inlinks.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/factsheets/j_sel_faq.html
Posted by: rqayyumPosts: 199 :: 17-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: BUNDERS OF JPMA AND JCPSP
I agree that most academics in Pakistan are underqualified. They never had a formal training in research and peer-reviewing. But I guess the situation is quite similar elsewhere.
I think a online-journal is a good idea. It has to be consistent and transparent. Though people at the top may not recognise it until it is indexed.
I am more than happy to contribute.
Rehman
Posted by: asiddiquiPosts: 26 :: 28-08-2005 :: | Reply to this Message
Re: Medical students interested in researchyarz..the thing is..its a mafia..u can NEVER get them published no matter how hard u try..NEVER..they only publish stuff from their cronies...
Posted by: OmarPosts: 5 :: 06-07-2006 :: | Reply to this Message